BWL ORDERS: Our Healing Strategy

[Zianna]

First and foremost: All healing classes must join the healer channel, as soon as they join the raid. I strongly suggest putting this channel in a seperate window, since we will use it for important orders that might otherwise disappear in the chaos of the general window, during fights. If you need help setting that up, poke me outside MC.


General notes:

• The Main Tank (MT) and OffTank (OT) should generally speaking always be shielded at every pull, to buy them time to build aggro.
  
• If you are assigned to someone and run oom, say so in the healer channel or on TS and say who is now missing a healer.
  
• Rather a death than a wipe.

Now, the strategies may vary at times, since it all largely depends who we have with us, but the following is the MO we will aim for, if possible.


RAZORGORE
In phase 1, druids will be sleeping dragons, priests and shamans are spread to groups and given the task of keeping their own + 1 more group (kiters) alive.

In phase 2, everyone alive keeps the 2 MTs alive with as little aggro as possible. Shields and fade rock here. If either of the 2 MTs die, getting him/her/them up is main priority. Aside from that, shamans ankh if they died, druids ress the ones that the healing leader appoints.

Once the tanking is undercontrol and more healers are up and healing again, look to the tanks ->your group->groups missing a healer.


VAEL
Priests use PoH to keep their groups alive and assist when and where they can. Main priority is your group, do not loose any.

Team A: 6+ healers on the current MT. 2 of these are appointed to swap to the next tank on the list as soon as the current one gets BA.

Team B: The remaining healers primarily keep the groups with no priests alive, secondary assist when really needed.


DEATH TALON PACKS
Team A (2): Druids sleeping (1 druid backup sleepers + raidspam)

Team B (2): Priests dispelling

Team C (2): Healing MT1

Team D (2): Healing MT2

Team E (2): Healing MT3

Team F (2): Healing MT4

The rest spam


SUPPRESSION ROOMS
Interrupt heals for mana conservation
Drink when ever you can

Team A (4): On MT

Team B (3): On the remaining MTs (spam)

Team C (1): Rogues, then spam.

Team D (3): Mages, then spam.

The remaining spam healers -> locks -> hunters -> assigned targets. Ress and drink between fights.


BROODLORD
1 priest on each Tank (we use 3 Tanks). Job: Keep renew going endlessly, patch a little and whack a shield the sec MS hits.

1 druid on each tank. Job: Keep HoT going endlessly and patch.

4 on the current MT. Job: Keep that tank alive without out-aggroing any other healer. Trust your friends. 2 of these 4 casting/interrupting their biggest heal endlessly, only to land it when it is needed, the other 2 stick to small heals. The tricky bit here is landing 3k+ HP on the tank in the 1½-2 second window we have after a MS, hence the cast/interrupt need.

2 MT spamming: Small heals on all 3 working tanks.

Remaining spam the remaining raid lightly. DPS are supposed to run out of range of the pain. Keep it to renew and the like and hold back a lot. Secondary, step in if other healers go down.

See positions at abigor.proboards37.com/index.cgi?board=mcinfo&action=display&thread=1154430163


LAB PACKS

• Tanks (5)
  
• Rogues & DPS Warriors (3-4)
  
• Mages, Locks & Hunters (3-4)
  
• Healers (2)
  
• Dispelling (1)

Healers look to yourself as well as the above assignments.
Remember shadow prot. and fire res. gear.
3 Locks must live to banish Enraged Felguards.

FIREMAW
A – MT (5)
B – OT1 (2, 1 priest for shields)
C – OT2 (2, 1 priest for shields)
D - 5-6 spamming DPS with renew and like spells. (1 priest from this group keeping MT shielded for every single CT call)
E - 1-2 backup for OOM, doing absolutely nothing until ordered by healing leader.

OTs need someone shielding them as well, from the left side of the doorway.
Make sure tanks have fire res totems in range
Spike damage on MT, stay awake. Keep tanks at 100% at ALL times.

See positions at abigor.proboards37.com/index.cgi?board=mcinfo&action=display&thread=1154498775


DRAGONKIN PACK
3 tanks working with 4 healers each. Priests use shields, lots of spike damage.

Remaining healers spam the tanks. Noone else should take damage.

Note that the last pack before Ebonroc needs to be pulled sorta far, you will have to run a bit in the beginning to have range on the tanks.


EBONROC
3 working tanks. 4 healers assigned to each, 1 from each class.

Remaining healers spam those 4 tanks as well. Noone else should take damage.

Be prepared for spike damage on all tanks, keep them at 100% at all times.


FLAMEGOR
1 priest on each Tank (we use 3 Tanks). Job: Keep renew going endlessly, patch a little and whack a shield the sec MS hits.

1 druid on each tank. Job: Keep HoT going endlessly and patch.
OT druids can give a hand on healer healing too, if they assess it's doable.

4 on the current MT. Job: Keep that tank alive. 2 of these should be casting/interrupting their biggest heal endlessly, only to land it when spike damage hits.

2 MT spamming: Small heals on all 3 working tanks.

Remaining spam the remaining raid. DPS (except hunters) can run out of range of the pain to bandage but need to run really far. Keep it to renew and the like and hold back a lot. We badly need the hunters to live, those are first prio. Secondary, step in if other healers go down.


CROMMIE
1 MT shielder/renewer
2 MT big heals/interrupt/druid hots
3 Decursers
6 MT healers

Non-Time Lapse
MT healers/part-time decursers (3)

Time Lapse
OT healers+decursers (3)

On a non-TL run, the 3 with the dual role steps up when enrage happen. The decursers will have to step up as well to cover for the fact that they will be the only ones decursing in that last 20%.

Only spam needed is Hunters, decursers can easily handle those (if they step out of breaths as they should, only a renew here and there is needed).


NEFARION - DRAFT
(Remember class calls when assigning)

P1
T1 (2)
T2 (2)
T3 (2)
T4 (2)
T5 (2)

MA1 (1)
MA2 (1)

Spam tanks (3)

If any healer dies, a spammer jumps in.

Transition
MT current healers + spammers follow MT to catch Neffie. Everyone else stay as they were, to keep the remaining raid alive while finishing off the last dragonkin. Use fear if needed to get loose ones off you.

P2
MT (9, 3 of each class):
Melee (2):
Ranged (2):
Healers (2):
If MT healers die, healer healers fill in first (both), then 1 ranged, then 1 melee, etc.

[Samathul]

BROODLORD
1 priest on each Tank. Job: Keep shield and renew going endlessly.

Would look a bit better, if it would be changed to: "1 priest on each Tank. Job: shield when MS hits and keep renew going endlessly."

We don't want the shield debuff be looming on the tank, when the MS hits and we really need the tanks to be shielded.

[drisnak]

Agree Samathul this was the thing that i tryed to explain last time.
we did it once like this and we got pass of broodloard

[Tardon]

Question:
Now, obviously I'm kinda of a healing nub, being a mage an' all...
I have no idea if this is possible... but could it be made that one priest kept renew constantly on tanks, and shielded the second MS hits... and another priest actually did the "real" healing? Maybe we dont have the priests for it, or something... I dont know... anyway, just a question

[Samathul]

I didn't quite get that, Tardon.

Why would we need two priests to do, what you are currently saying, for a job that can be done with just a single priest? Having 2 priests, the other doing renew and the other doing shields, doesn't add up any flexibility or increased healing capacity. It might lessen the risk of a priest going oom, but that hasn't been the problem, if the priests on their assigned tank does what they're supposed to do

Edit: Both shield and renew are instants, so you wont even get a reduced cast times by utilizing 2 priests.

edit2: Adding a single druid, that does nothing else than keep his rejuvenation running up on all the tanks, would actually be a slight upgrade healing wise. 2 HoTs running constantly on a tank is a huge HPS boost (A total of 200HPS from hots on a tank is quite alot, because tanks are usually on a ballpark of 300-400DPS damagewise. There are already a few battles, where a priest and a druid can keep tanks topped up by just letting their hots run on him ). Altough, aggro wise, the single druid doing nothing but HoTs on tanks would probably quickly skyrocket through the aggro list.

[yavimaya]

I still haven't really got my head round this fight (and obviously know nothing about the healing side), but thought I'd post what observations I think I was able to make on the last attempt from a tank point of view and also hope to prevoke some thoughts from other people.

Broodlord has 4 (possibly 5) separate attacks.
1) The big Mortal Strike (we all know about this one. Hits an armoured tank for between 4K and 5K damage and puts the debuff on). *prays to blizzard that it can't crit*
2) His normal hitty hitty attack with his big sticky whicky. Hits for around 1K I think, therefore would crit for around 2K (estimate).
3) His AoE knockback, hits everyone around him for around 2-2.5K I think. Possibly fire damage. (no idea if it can crit or not)
4) Cleave. Hits everyone in the 90 degrees in front of him for about 1.5K (estimate) (should just be the main tank obviously).
5) His aggro reducing attack (this may possibly be included in one of the above attacks, most likely cleave or knockback, probably not the mortal strike IMO).

In general, the off-tanks should be able to avoid all damage except for 4) AoE knockback.

This means that for most of their fighting when they're not tanking they should be unhurt, until suddenly taking 2K damage from the knockback. I would agree with Sama's post above, it's probably not a good idea having them shielded until they actually start tanking and get the debuff.

In my opinion, I suspect the most important thing is to have them at full health for as mucha s possible ready for the tank switch, when he does his 5) aggro-reducing attack. The best way to do this, I've no idea, but possibly having something like one priest (for the shield when he gets debuffed) and one druid (for regrowth, permanently casting and cancelling to deal with the AoE damage) on each main tank and then rest of healers on current tank.

Shouldn't be any need for any spam healers. Any spare healers I would have thought are best for switching in and out on maintank healing in order to share the aggro.

Ranged shouldn't get damage unless they steal aggro in which case they generally have to die or they'll wipe the raid. Melee should use bandages after they take knockback damage to avoid healers over aggro'ing.

Anyway, sorry if this is no help at all. It's a seriously tough fight, but we've done it before, so we know we're shiny enough to do it, we just gotta smoothe it out and we shall we sailing through BWL.

Taga/Yavi

[Zianna]

Actually, this was covered nicely our last trip there imo. The subject, that is, not the shielding

Current plan:
1 priest on each Tank (we use 3 Tanks). Job: Keep renew going endlessly, patch a little and whack a shield the sec MS hits.

1 druid on each tank. Job: Keep HoT going endlessly and patch.

4 on the current MT. Job: Keep that tank alive without out-aggroing any other healer. Trust your friends. At least 2 of these should be casting/interrupting their biggest heal endlessly, only to land it when MS hits. The tricky bit here is landing 3k+ HP on the tank in the 1½-2 second window we have after a MS, hence the cast/interrupt need.

2 MT spamming: Small heals on all 3 working tanks.

Remaining spam the remaining raid lightly. DPS are supposed to run out of range of the pain. Keep it to renew and the like and hold back a lot. Secondary, step in if other healers go down.

I haven't edited the "official" post yet, cause I wanna see it work first

[Zianna]

Right then, updated the strat based on what we saw last night. Let me know if I forgot anything, please (this flu is killing me >.<)