jokk
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Post by jokk on Oct 4, 2006 21:06:29 GMT 1
Like you all have seen are we going to get dual wield in tBC. Ive been looking for some highend healing weapons and you know what, they are 1 handed so you can have one in main hand and 1 in off hand! for example: Scepter of the False Prophet www.thottbot.com/?i=53400+10 Stamina +19 Intellect Durability 105 / 105 Requires Level 60 Equip: Increases healing done by spells and effects by up to 187. Equip: Restores 3 mana per 5 sec. and: Hammer of the Twisting Nether +8 Stamina +11 Intellect Durability 105 / 105 Requires Level 60 Equip: Increases healing done by spells and effects by up to 238. Equip: Restores 8 mana per 5 sec. that gives you: +18 stamina +30 intellect Increases healing done by spells and effects by up to 425. Restores 11 mana per 5 sec. Ad 2x +55 healing enchants and you got 535 +healing only from weapon slots. (thats more then I got now btw) This is with the best possible weapons right now.. and im sure the items in tBC will have even more +healing to make them beter then the old loot. so 31 enhancment and 30 resto looks like the way to go for a tBC healing shaman that want to be able to do anything else then just healing
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Post by zikorez on Oct 4, 2006 21:17:31 GMT 1
gief kkthx
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Post by krktie on Oct 4, 2006 23:26:57 GMT 1
/faints Either this is going to get nerfed.. or all items of that sort will be main hand in tBC.. or Blizzard has finally given shamans some love?
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Post by zikorez on Oct 4, 2006 23:34:32 GMT 1
yeah, it's too good to be true, it will be nerfed
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Post by Allin on Nov 3, 2006 1:45:55 GMT 1
The fact that you have 31 points enhancement gimps your healing slightly, and DW is useless unless talented dpswise.
And all TBC one handed healer weapons are mainhand according to what one shaman said, all the onehanded +damage stuff as well (as an elementalist wouldn't loose much by skipping last 11 points in elemental as it looks)
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jokk
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Post by jokk on Nov 3, 2006 11:52:37 GMT 1
your totaly right about that with caster weapons being mainahand in tBC beta, but your totaly wrong about gimping healing to much . the only good talent now is purification (i think thats what the talent that increase effect from healings spells by 10% is called atleast) 0/43/18 build ftw!
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Post by zikorez on Nov 3, 2006 11:53:41 GMT 1
QFT
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Post by Allin on Nov 6, 2006 13:39:36 GMT 1
using www.wow-europe.com/en/info/underdev/burningcrusade/shaman/talents.html?0000000000000000000050250021050213310100050032051050310500000You lack Mana tide (18% mana every 5 minutes for your whole party), 30% of your int as +healing (and damage, but irrelevant in this case), your very own reactive fade with a built in heal (natures guardian), improved chain heal (which is the shamans most effective heal) and finally earth shield, which is a great aid for the tank in PvE, and yourself/casters in PvP, it scales with gear, and on max rank I've got reported heals for over 500 per proc. for this you possibly gain ~+300 healing, and lose the additional protection of a shield (which also has stats, making the gain even smaller). Of course it is viable, but personally I don't see the gain, as you can't really use DW for dps outside raids without the +hit talent (2 handers are superior) and those can be gotten with 11 points in the tree. Possibly 20 points, as to get flurry as well. The totem talents are nice, but imo you are better of having one shaman go all out enhancement, in with the rogues dpsing, keeping his talented totems and unleashed rage up.
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jokk
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Post by jokk on Nov 6, 2006 17:42:32 GMT 1
this build isnt about making us beter at healing, its about that we CAN heal ok with a none healing spec. and im VERY sure very few shamans will go deap into the resto tree in tBC, i wont do it, and if thats not accepted when raiding. so what?
and a full dual wield spec is beter then a 2 hander. next point is.. 18% mana every 5 min for a 31 points talent.. thats just not worth it, thats a realy sucky talent
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Post by Allin on Nov 7, 2006 15:18:46 GMT 1
this build isnt about making us beter at healing, its about that we CAN heal ok with a none healing spec. and im VERY sure very few shamans will go deap into the resto tree in tBC, i wont do it, and if thats not accepted when raiding. so what? and a full dual wield spec is beter then a 2 hander. next point is.. 18% mana every 5 min for a 31 points talent.. thats just not worth it, thats a realy sucky talent going DW and not getting DW spec means you'll have to get those 6% hit from other places, probably sacrificing other stats, and without +hit DW is pretty much useless. And sure, if you simply wish to pewpew big numbers outside raiding while still having decent capability to heal it may work, but I'd pick stormstrike over DW and stick with shield (depending on how much physical damage healers will take in BC of course). As for mana tide, I was tired and miscalculated, it'll probably be 24% of mana every 5 minutes, which I think is more than respectable, all depends on your view. Remember those 24% are not spread out over 5 min, but can come in a situation where burst healing is needed (think huhuran 30-0% for example). As for what is accepted and so, it'll depend on who you raid with, but I dislike speccing outside my raiding role, although that depends wholly on how much you raid. And you can probably heal okey, I'm just pointing out what you lose by it. Opinions opinions as always, I'm happy that you didn't think it would be better to spec this way because of DW (which some people do).
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Post by Eikahe Runespirit on Nov 12, 2006 8:35:58 GMT 1
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jokk
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Post by jokk on Nov 12, 2006 12:48:32 GMT 1
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Post by zikorez on Nov 19, 2006 20:08:14 GMT 1
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