Nefarian

[Zianna]

Just to start somewhere, I stumbled over this.

www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/article-29-nefarian.html

It doesn't seem like the strat Felb is using for phase 1 though, but there is some very nice describtions of debuffs and what they do etc.

Please add good links you find

[Zianna]

Found movie too! *roars*

www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=8072

[Tardon]

forums.elitistjerks.com/viewtopic.php?id=8325
Was linked in another thread...
Obviosly I dont know much about the Neffy fight yet, but that DOES sound easier than the way we did it last time.

[Felbane]

After trying the gather and aoe all thingy, I thought it seemed a lot messier, but since so many is convinced of the opposite, and maybe it gets better with training.


thus, we'll use the guidelines put up in the abovementioned thread:

9. Nefarian:

So we took down Nefarian just one weekend after our first Chrom take-down. This fight ended up being exceptionally easy. No boss in BWL stopped us for long (never more than one weekend) but Firemaw actually caused the most wipes.

* Throne AOE is by far the best way to learn/execute phase 1. Seriously. Our first weekend of attempts, we tried Assist + AOE at the doorways. In 3 attempts, the best we could do was 17 drakonids down, and that was with plenty of mayhem and a general lack of coordination. This weekend (first takedown!) we tried throne AOE straight-away and immediately got to Phase 2 with no one dead. Seriously, the difference was that stark. And yes, we had blue/black drakonids.

Layout:

(1) Healers/ranged DPS all the way at the top of the throne ramp.
(2) Near the bottom of the ramp, the Nefarian tank stands idle. Their only job during Phase 1 is to drag any errant drakonids back to the "hot box".
(3) Rogues position themselves just beyond the bottom of the throne ramp, facing the square directly in front.
(4) The square is known as the "hot box". All of your warriors except the MT stand here. (Put 5 of them in the same group in your raid).

Execution:

(1) Upon initation of phase 1, a warrior (one with improved battle shout) in your "hot box" group starts spamming battle shout.
(2) Drakonids will lock onto this warrior and pile up in the hot box.
(3) Start AOEing soon thereafter - everyone AOEing onto the hot box.
(4) Healers keep the tanks up. Set up a rogue with a tank target and they main assist blues (if you get them). Hunters follow the rogue target. Warlocks do the same (if necessary).
(5) Rogue duties are simple: single target DPS blues and keep any wanderers from heading up the ramp.
(6) Anyone MC'd by Nef has to announce it immediately (esp. a warrior) so it can be dispelled.

Seriously, chances of any more than 1 wanderer are very low, and they go right back down due to your rogues and the MT sitting there ready.

Using this method, Phase 2 will come rediculously fast (I mean that) so your MT needs to head over to the Phase 2 spot pretty quickly (along with his healers, who we send out 2-3 at a time).

* MT needs to start Bloodrage + bandaging earlier rather than later (so they don't miss the aggro reset at the beginning of Phase 2). Starting it when you get the CT Raid warning (Phase 2 in 10 seconds.) is a good idea.

* GSPPs for rogues during phase 2 are great. So are limited invulnerability pots for phase 3 (warlocks/mages).

* Great advantage to throne AOE - all constructs are in a big pile, close by for phase 3. DPS and warriors just turn their attention to the nearby big pile and are ready to go when they rez.

*Don't underestimate the amount of healing you'll need on your MT. We put 3 priests, 3 druids, 3 paladins and didn't regret it due to class calls interrupting healing, etc.

* Have 2 mages back up your druids on decursing duty. Veil of Shadows must be removed from the MT the instant you see it.




Felbanes additions:

Mages and warlocks: You WILL get aggro.
what do we want the mobs to do? stand still in the hotbox. what will they do? run towards you. this means that if any mob is coming out on your side of the hotbox, you must run or blink through the box, to the other side. this means the mob runs thought the box again, very likely to either die or aggro someone else.

YOU MUST NOT DRAW MOBS OUT FROM THE AOE. rawr!

Healers: you shouldn't get mobs beating on you much. if you do however, runnigng a lap through the aoe should solve the problem.
Yes, you might take aoe damage while in the pile, but not overly much, and at least the mob will stop beating on you so you are better off in the end.

[Maff]

Some other guide (linked some time ago) - www.mmorpg-guides.org/viewtopic.php?t=4

[terrel]

Just wondering, since patch warriors' Battle Shout aggro has been reduced massively, so we won't be able to use that to gather up the dragons.

[Felbane]

says who?

I'd love a link to something written by someone with first hand experience of the event in 2.0.

So far all I've seen or heard is people panicking over a line in the patch notes that might or might not have any relevance at all.

[krktie]

Yeah but it's warrior people, we usually have REASON to panic when such lines appear in patch notes.

[Zianna]

I vote we hold the panic till shouting at throne fails *nods*

[Tardon]

So did it?

[Zianna]

Uhm.

Well, let me put it like this:

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!

That said, we made P3! Rah!

[Tardon]

I say we get a piggy to tank.

[Zianna]

Yush! We make all hunters get a piggy pet and have the piggies tank the adds *nodnods* I am sure that wont be harder than getting the hunters to show up for the raids in the first place...

[Tardon]

Can't we ditch the nub huntards and just get the piggy's? >.>

[skrallik]

NO !