Post by Erath on Sept 5, 2006 23:15:32 GMT 1
Grinding Cenarion Circle Reputation
Hey everyone
As you may be aware I’ve been on a mad rep grinding spree in the last couple of weeks trying to get to exalted. Now I’m there I thought I’d note down some of the things I did, and some things I’d do differently, in case anyone else wished to go for some rep.
The Rewards
There are two main reasons to grind CC (Cenarion Circle) rep up. These are:
1) The ring/cloak/weapon combination from Ahn Qiraj
2) Battlegear
1) Each class gets their own different set of gear, and it’s of very variable quality. For shaman, the ring and cloak are absolutely superb items, where the weapon is pretty blah unless you are elemental, in which case it is awesome. I hear the rogue dagger available is about as good as it gets. You need honoured rep to get the ring, revered for the cloak and exalted to get the weapon. However, you also need a total of 13 drops from inside the 20-man AQ instance for each item. This is not as bad as it sounds, 12 of them are BoE and can therefore be traded with your fellow raiders. Whaco also have a back set up called AQbank (run by Skrallik) from which you can get/trade additional items. There is one BoP drop per item though which only drops from the bosses in AQ20. Whaco raid AQ20 on Monday nights and after a long, long time we now have the place on farm status. Sign ups are at TFOs forum. However these raids are very popular and almost always oversubscribed. Therefore newcomers to the AQ20 raids will have hope they get lucky, I’m afraid.
2) Battlegear is available from Vargus the Blacksmith in Cenarion hold. There is a selection available from friendly all the way up to exalted. Some of it is really nice! Next time you’re in Silithus go talk to Vargus and drool at his stuff.
Vargus does not just require rep though, he requires you to give him badges as well. I’ll explain more about the badges below.
Vargus also sells some nice Blacksmithing recipes for those of you that follow that profession.
Getting Rep
There are loads of ways to do this
Ahn Qiraj – The twenty man instance gives about 2,000 rep for a full clear. This is way in advance of everything else, and is the best way to grind rep. I put zero effort into grinding CC rep for a long time, and got revered pretty much purely by doing Ahn Qiraj.
Twilight Cultists - These are around the four twilight camps in Silithus (one just to the west of Cenarion Hold, why they don’t just ballista the place to the ground is beyond me, one in the NW, one in the NE called Twilight’s Run, and one in the SW). Up to honoured, these give 1 rep per kill. The exception, for some bizarre reason, is Twilight Flamereavers in Twilight’s Run, which give 1 rep per kill up to revered. There’s a semi elite guy that wonders around from time to time, he’s worth 5 rep. WARNING: These camps are all heavily camped, if you’ll excuse the pun. At peak times (around 1700-2300) you are better off doing something else.
Encrypted Twilight Texts – These are a fairly common drop off the Twilight cultists Every 10 texts you hand in to the relevant guy in Silithus gets you 100 rep. If its quiet you can get about 20 texts per hour. Texts are available on the AH, although usually at ridiculously high prices (c. 1g per text) so if you have lots of money this is viable.
Templars and Dukes – The cultists drop set items as well – mantles, cowls and robes. If you wear a full set of these and activate a lesser wind stone (2 of each in the camps, except Twilight’s Run, with an extremely quick respawn rate) you will summon a templar. They drop Crests – 3 Crests + 1 Large Brilliant Shard and you can summon a Duke from a normal Wind Stone (1 in each camp except Twilight’s Run, pretty quick respawn rate). Each of these kills give you rep (Dukes are worth 25 rep each, not sure about Templars but they are not worth rep once you reach revered, at least). The signets can be handed into the nice people at Cenarion Hold for 100 bonus rep and a goody bag (this bag is great, most of them contain a really good BoE blue item, some contain an epic!). The templars, from what I have seen, can be soloed but only just and it’s a lot easier if you 2 man them. Dukes need to be 5 manned.
Field Duty – A good thing to be doing when the camps are full of farmers. This quest is repeatable and gives 25 rep each time. It used to be a joke – you could start the event, stay mounted, go make a cup of tea, come back, talk to the orc and complete. But blizzard, quite rightly imo, changed that and now the orc has to survive the encounter (he doesn’t if you leave the NPCs to it). Healers can easily achieve this, I don’t know about non-healer classes, but its worth experimentation. As well as 25 rep you get given a choice of a tactical, combat or logistical assignment.
Tactical Assignments – There are ten of these. 4 are to kill the four types of templar you can summon. 3 are to visit the scouts in each of the Hives (see Combat assignments). These are the easy ones. There’s one to kill the Twilight Prophet (a 60 elite and guarded by 4 level 60 non-elites), one to kill Morna and the Twilight Marauders (anyone who as travelled to AQ on Silithus will know these – they are the ones that gank you as you travel down the path towards Ahn’Qiraj), and a special one to kill the four types of Duke which you can only get as a follow-up. Completing each tactical assignment gets you 50 rep, a tactical badge and a follow-up assignment. The exception is the four dukes one, which gives 100 rep and a Mark of Cenarius – this needs to be handed in to Vargus to complete his Exalted Battlegear quest.
Combat Assignments – These are SO much easier to manage now than they used to. When you select a combat assignment you get given a dossier of four quests for one particular hive out of the three – you will need to kill 30 of a particular type of bug to complete. Before they gave you one at a time, and it was a total pain getting together missions for a particular hive. The hives can all be two manned, although there is a guy in Regal who can Mind Control so he might be a bit of a problem. With 3 or 4 it becomes a complete zerg. Each combat mission completed gets 50 rep and a combat badge. It’s a good idea to combine a hive’s combat mission with the tactical quest to find a scout. This way you can get 250 rep and 5 badges in about an hour/hour and a half. One problem with the combat missions is that one of the baddies you have to kill seems particularly rare, but you get about halfway by the time you’ve killed 30 of the others, so with two trips you can get 7 badges. Exception is Hive Ashi and the ridiculous Stingers – I went through Ashi only once and killed 3 stingers in the time it took me to kill 30 of other 3, which is just stupid. A warning about the combat missions though. They are very, very dull. I’d highly recommend only doing one hive at a time in order to maintain some semblance of sanity.
Logistic Assignments – These are a joke. A totally random list of stuff needs to be produced and given to someone in Silithus. I had two of these on the go at all times until I had my 20 badges, and had one of my alts go to the AH, buy the stuff and post it to Erath, or someone in the guild if something needed crafting (thus my strange requests in guild chat for armour kits, massive iron axes, etc). Its 50 rep per quest, but can get a bit expensive – wouldn’t recommend this as a way of farming other than to get the badges. There is a special one of these that needs 3 frayed abomination stitchings and a skin of shadow to complete, which gives 100 rep and a mark you need for revered battlegear.
Silithyst – The new world pvp effects Silithus and although its totally lame (OMG COLLECT RED DUST FOR DA HORDE) you can get rep from it, as well as honour if you like that kind of thing! Its well worth doing at least once, as you get 100 extra rep for the first delivery, on top of the standard 10 rep per delivery (and all of 199 honour). For 10 rep its not worth going out of your way for (the equivalent of one text) but it is something to do to and from field duties if you happen to come across any. It does flag you for pvp but no-one cares.
Quests – There’s all sorts of easily soloable quests that you’ve probably done already in Cenarion Hold. If however you haven’t, then don’t…at least, not until you get revered (if you are going all the way). They still give rep at revered and some of them give 100 or 150, something like that, which is a really nice boost. Some of the quests aren’t soloable; Deathclasp probably needs 3, The Calling needs 20.
Honored amongst the Cenarion Circle – This is available from the same guy who gives you the Field Duty quest in Cenarion Hold. It’s a great way to earn rep, probably the best outside of AQ. Hand in one of each badge type and get 200 rep. That’s it! This is on top of the 25 for doing field duties to get the quests, and the original 50 for getting the badge in the first place.
Doing these things in combination is the key. Its both quicker, and, more importantly with a grind, more interesting! It is possible, for example, to get from neutral to exalted by doing nothing but grind cultists and hand in texts but chances are you’ll go clinically insane and be unable to use your rewards. I found I couldn’t spend more than two hours at a time grinding cultists as by then I was inclined to drift into a coma, which is no good at all!
I’d highly recommend saving up your sets from your cultist grinding for a time when you have a lot of them, and also a lot of tactical missions to kill templars. I had two large sessions of set usage, one where I did nothing but templars (did about 25 I think and ended up with 16 tactical badges, thanks to Septikos!), and then one when I did a mixture of templars and dukes (ended up killing 11 dukes in about 2 hours, thanks to everyone who helped with that!) The AH has extremely cheap set items in my opinion so if you are short of a particular one you’ll be able to buy them.
Hey everyone
As you may be aware I’ve been on a mad rep grinding spree in the last couple of weeks trying to get to exalted. Now I’m there I thought I’d note down some of the things I did, and some things I’d do differently, in case anyone else wished to go for some rep.
The Rewards
There are two main reasons to grind CC (Cenarion Circle) rep up. These are:
1) The ring/cloak/weapon combination from Ahn Qiraj
2) Battlegear
1) Each class gets their own different set of gear, and it’s of very variable quality. For shaman, the ring and cloak are absolutely superb items, where the weapon is pretty blah unless you are elemental, in which case it is awesome. I hear the rogue dagger available is about as good as it gets. You need honoured rep to get the ring, revered for the cloak and exalted to get the weapon. However, you also need a total of 13 drops from inside the 20-man AQ instance for each item. This is not as bad as it sounds, 12 of them are BoE and can therefore be traded with your fellow raiders. Whaco also have a back set up called AQbank (run by Skrallik) from which you can get/trade additional items. There is one BoP drop per item though which only drops from the bosses in AQ20. Whaco raid AQ20 on Monday nights and after a long, long time we now have the place on farm status. Sign ups are at TFOs forum. However these raids are very popular and almost always oversubscribed. Therefore newcomers to the AQ20 raids will have hope they get lucky, I’m afraid.
2) Battlegear is available from Vargus the Blacksmith in Cenarion hold. There is a selection available from friendly all the way up to exalted. Some of it is really nice! Next time you’re in Silithus go talk to Vargus and drool at his stuff.
Vargus does not just require rep though, he requires you to give him badges as well. I’ll explain more about the badges below.
Vargus also sells some nice Blacksmithing recipes for those of you that follow that profession.
Getting Rep
There are loads of ways to do this
Ahn Qiraj – The twenty man instance gives about 2,000 rep for a full clear. This is way in advance of everything else, and is the best way to grind rep. I put zero effort into grinding CC rep for a long time, and got revered pretty much purely by doing Ahn Qiraj.
Twilight Cultists - These are around the four twilight camps in Silithus (one just to the west of Cenarion Hold, why they don’t just ballista the place to the ground is beyond me, one in the NW, one in the NE called Twilight’s Run, and one in the SW). Up to honoured, these give 1 rep per kill. The exception, for some bizarre reason, is Twilight Flamereavers in Twilight’s Run, which give 1 rep per kill up to revered. There’s a semi elite guy that wonders around from time to time, he’s worth 5 rep. WARNING: These camps are all heavily camped, if you’ll excuse the pun. At peak times (around 1700-2300) you are better off doing something else.
Encrypted Twilight Texts – These are a fairly common drop off the Twilight cultists Every 10 texts you hand in to the relevant guy in Silithus gets you 100 rep. If its quiet you can get about 20 texts per hour. Texts are available on the AH, although usually at ridiculously high prices (c. 1g per text) so if you have lots of money this is viable.
Templars and Dukes – The cultists drop set items as well – mantles, cowls and robes. If you wear a full set of these and activate a lesser wind stone (2 of each in the camps, except Twilight’s Run, with an extremely quick respawn rate) you will summon a templar. They drop Crests – 3 Crests + 1 Large Brilliant Shard and you can summon a Duke from a normal Wind Stone (1 in each camp except Twilight’s Run, pretty quick respawn rate). Each of these kills give you rep (Dukes are worth 25 rep each, not sure about Templars but they are not worth rep once you reach revered, at least). The signets can be handed into the nice people at Cenarion Hold for 100 bonus rep and a goody bag (this bag is great, most of them contain a really good BoE blue item, some contain an epic!). The templars, from what I have seen, can be soloed but only just and it’s a lot easier if you 2 man them. Dukes need to be 5 manned.
Field Duty – A good thing to be doing when the camps are full of farmers. This quest is repeatable and gives 25 rep each time. It used to be a joke – you could start the event, stay mounted, go make a cup of tea, come back, talk to the orc and complete. But blizzard, quite rightly imo, changed that and now the orc has to survive the encounter (he doesn’t if you leave the NPCs to it). Healers can easily achieve this, I don’t know about non-healer classes, but its worth experimentation. As well as 25 rep you get given a choice of a tactical, combat or logistical assignment.
Tactical Assignments – There are ten of these. 4 are to kill the four types of templar you can summon. 3 are to visit the scouts in each of the Hives (see Combat assignments). These are the easy ones. There’s one to kill the Twilight Prophet (a 60 elite and guarded by 4 level 60 non-elites), one to kill Morna and the Twilight Marauders (anyone who as travelled to AQ on Silithus will know these – they are the ones that gank you as you travel down the path towards Ahn’Qiraj), and a special one to kill the four types of Duke which you can only get as a follow-up. Completing each tactical assignment gets you 50 rep, a tactical badge and a follow-up assignment. The exception is the four dukes one, which gives 100 rep and a Mark of Cenarius – this needs to be handed in to Vargus to complete his Exalted Battlegear quest.
Combat Assignments – These are SO much easier to manage now than they used to. When you select a combat assignment you get given a dossier of four quests for one particular hive out of the three – you will need to kill 30 of a particular type of bug to complete. Before they gave you one at a time, and it was a total pain getting together missions for a particular hive. The hives can all be two manned, although there is a guy in Regal who can Mind Control so he might be a bit of a problem. With 3 or 4 it becomes a complete zerg. Each combat mission completed gets 50 rep and a combat badge. It’s a good idea to combine a hive’s combat mission with the tactical quest to find a scout. This way you can get 250 rep and 5 badges in about an hour/hour and a half. One problem with the combat missions is that one of the baddies you have to kill seems particularly rare, but you get about halfway by the time you’ve killed 30 of the others, so with two trips you can get 7 badges. Exception is Hive Ashi and the ridiculous Stingers – I went through Ashi only once and killed 3 stingers in the time it took me to kill 30 of other 3, which is just stupid. A warning about the combat missions though. They are very, very dull. I’d highly recommend only doing one hive at a time in order to maintain some semblance of sanity.
Logistic Assignments – These are a joke. A totally random list of stuff needs to be produced and given to someone in Silithus. I had two of these on the go at all times until I had my 20 badges, and had one of my alts go to the AH, buy the stuff and post it to Erath, or someone in the guild if something needed crafting (thus my strange requests in guild chat for armour kits, massive iron axes, etc). Its 50 rep per quest, but can get a bit expensive – wouldn’t recommend this as a way of farming other than to get the badges. There is a special one of these that needs 3 frayed abomination stitchings and a skin of shadow to complete, which gives 100 rep and a mark you need for revered battlegear.
Silithyst – The new world pvp effects Silithus and although its totally lame (OMG COLLECT RED DUST FOR DA HORDE) you can get rep from it, as well as honour if you like that kind of thing! Its well worth doing at least once, as you get 100 extra rep for the first delivery, on top of the standard 10 rep per delivery (and all of 199 honour). For 10 rep its not worth going out of your way for (the equivalent of one text) but it is something to do to and from field duties if you happen to come across any. It does flag you for pvp but no-one cares.
Quests – There’s all sorts of easily soloable quests that you’ve probably done already in Cenarion Hold. If however you haven’t, then don’t…at least, not until you get revered (if you are going all the way). They still give rep at revered and some of them give 100 or 150, something like that, which is a really nice boost. Some of the quests aren’t soloable; Deathclasp probably needs 3, The Calling needs 20.
Honored amongst the Cenarion Circle – This is available from the same guy who gives you the Field Duty quest in Cenarion Hold. It’s a great way to earn rep, probably the best outside of AQ. Hand in one of each badge type and get 200 rep. That’s it! This is on top of the 25 for doing field duties to get the quests, and the original 50 for getting the badge in the first place.
Doing these things in combination is the key. Its both quicker, and, more importantly with a grind, more interesting! It is possible, for example, to get from neutral to exalted by doing nothing but grind cultists and hand in texts but chances are you’ll go clinically insane and be unable to use your rewards. I found I couldn’t spend more than two hours at a time grinding cultists as by then I was inclined to drift into a coma, which is no good at all!
I’d highly recommend saving up your sets from your cultist grinding for a time when you have a lot of them, and also a lot of tactical missions to kill templars. I had two large sessions of set usage, one where I did nothing but templars (did about 25 I think and ended up with 16 tactical badges, thanks to Septikos!), and then one when I did a mixture of templars and dukes (ended up killing 11 dukes in about 2 hours, thanks to everyone who helped with that!) The AH has extremely cheap set items in my opinion so if you are short of a particular one you’ll be able to buy them.